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15:21 : Some intersting statements
Joss Whedon is not the saviour of TV.
Terry Pratchett is overrated.
JMS was the saviour of TV.

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From:gaspodog
Date:20060226 15:36 (UTC)
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agreed
agreed
disagreed
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From:billyabbott
Date:20060226 17:26 (UTC)
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agreed
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From:gaspodog
Date:20060226 18:53 (UTC)
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brevity++
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From:elvum
Date:20060226 23:06 (UTC)
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yeah
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From:rjw1
Date:20060226 23:40 (UTC)
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hm
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From:sammoore
Date:20060226 15:36 (UTC)
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Joss Whedon is not the saviour of TV.

No he is not. He is however a talented writer/producer who has brought some wit back to TV.
Terry Pratchett is overrated.

By who. I really like a lot of his books but I haven't read many of the lastest ones. His early pastiches of classic fantasy are his best works. The Guards novels are all a bit the same.
JMS was the saviour of TV.

Not a clue who JMS is.

Sam
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From:sulkyblue
Date:20060226 15:36 (UTC)
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1) There ain't no such thing as a saviour of TV. Joss Whedon has produced superb tv however. And Roseanne.
2) True.
3) There ain't no such thing as a saviour of TV. JMS has produced superb tv however. And Captain Power.

;o)
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From:rjw1
Date:20060226 23:41 (UTC)
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hmm the dark secrets of televisual writers.
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From:bazzalisk
Date:20060226 17:19 (UTC)
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No, Joss Whedon is a talented writer/producer who has made some good programmes - in the next decade he may be very influential on the work of new writers/producers.

Terry Pratchett is overrated by some, but he's also a rather good author (though his early stuff and his latest stuff are a lot better than the stuff in the middle).

No, J. Michael Straczynski was a talented writer/producer who has made some good programmes - over the last decade he has been very influential on the work of new writers/producers, including Joss Whedon. He is, however, probably also a man who had One Good Idea(tm) (or to be slightly fairer, One Good Idea(tm) in television, and one in comicbooks) and everything else he's done ha been relatively mediocre.
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From:billyabbott
Date:20060226 17:27 (UTC)
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Are you calling Murder She Wrote mediocre? If you then you better make sure you keep an eye out in darkened alleyways - I am like the ninja...
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From:bazzalisk
Date:20060226 18:15 (UTC)
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Murder she what now?
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From:rjw1
Date:20060226 18:21 (UTC)
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bah young people

next you will be saying you dont know who perry mason is
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From:gaspodog
Date:20060226 18:51 (UTC)
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Not as good as Quincy, that's who he is.
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From:shuripentu
Date:20060227 12:52 (UTC)
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Oh. My. Nonexistent. Gods.

Even I know what Murder She Wrote is.
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From:gaspodog
Date:20060226 18:52 (UTC)
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Like Tenshu Shaolin Shinobi you use cunningly crafted whistle make elephant call distract guard yes?

Game hate player. Game kill player.

Game Nintendo hard.
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From:pfig
Date:20060226 19:28 (UTC)
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tv is shit, period. except for all the stuff i watch.
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From:reddragdiva
Date:20060226 20:31 (UTC)
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Wheedon is the saviour of geek television, because he really showed that planning to make your money back from the DVDs is quite workable. The new Dr Who wouldn't be nearly as flash otherwise.

Pratchett would be the first to agree, I think. He's a popular author, knows how ephemeral that is and isn't too keen on being accused of literaure.
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From:2shortplanks
Date:20060226 21:18 (UTC)
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Don't we pay up front for Doctor Who (by law.) I didn't think there was any money that needed being made back.
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From:reddragdiva
Date:20060226 21:23 (UTC)
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It's still shockingly expensive (a million quid an episode) compared to the old ones (about 10p an episode), and you can bet the DVD sales were figured into that before they shot a minute of it.
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From:2shortplanks
Date:20060226 21:36 (UTC)
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Ah, yes, but in those days 10p could buy you a small country.

Or at the very least a sheet of baking foil you could pretend is an alien invasion.
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From:2shortplanks
Date:20060226 21:33 (UTC)
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agreed. I love his stuff, but TV never really needed saving.

Disagreed. Terry Pratchett is underrated. This is quite possibly because he was overrated in the past and now is underrated. I think this has a lot to do with bazzalisk said about his early and later books being better than the middle ones. Anyway; I recommend the audiobooks - Audible has them if you can put up with the DRM.

I still want to know what happens at the end of the Bablyonverse darmnit. I assume we find a solution to the plauge. I assume that this wasn't the actual plot anyway.
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From:rjw1
Date:20060226 21:39 (UTC)
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hopefully volume 17 of jms's script books will reveal all.
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From:elvum
Date:20060226 23:10 (UTC)
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I was always a bit meh about Babylon 5 - nothing I saw really struck me as standing out in terms of plot, characterisation or humour, and the SFX looked too much like they'd let a bunch of teenagers loose with Lightwave. I'm sure they were very good for c.1990 though. :-) I doubt I've seen more than half a dozen episodes, mind you.
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